awsome thats why i initially chose this and i actually think i just answered my own question to be honest. I was reading the downloaded documents(my personal computer has no internet access since im currently deployed) and it was confusing me reading the readme in the python folder. i simply used idle to create the file it told me to in the panda guide then saved it and ran it with the command line prompt instead of idle and it worked great seems i just cant use idle since its configured for 3.2.2 ill have to grab another IDE for 2.6.5 that came with panda